eliittihemuli Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 When my murmur is on, I can join there for a few seconds with mumble, but then it crashes. It only crashes when I have murmur on. When I join my friends murmur server without having my murmur on, my mumble works fine without crashing. I've tried that and some other things to see what causes it to crash. Couldn't find any other reason for it crashing than having both murmur and mumble enabled at the same time. Anyone knows why this happens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators kissaki Posted October 3, 2012 Administrators Share Posted October 3, 2012 No. No idea. Should not happen.Can you provide some debug/log information?Did you send a crash dump upon crash? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliittihemuli Posted October 4, 2012 Author Share Posted October 4, 2012 Very strange and irritating, now it works fine as I'm on my Murmur with my friends, sometimes Mumble just crashes and sometimes don't... I'll post the crash information next time it happens.EDIT: Alright so it started to happen once again, guess it was a temporary when it worked for the one time. I do send crash reports every time it crashes, but where I can find the crash log so I could post it here?EDIT 2: Found them, obviously on the Murmur log of course, posting them on a new post as a thread bump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliittihemuli Posted October 5, 2012 Author Share Posted October 5, 2012 2012-10-05 19:56:50.595 Initializing settings from C:/Program Files (x86)/Mumble/murmur.ini (basepath C:/Program Files (x86)/Mumble)2012-10-05 19:56:50.609 OpenSSL: OpenSSL 1.0.0c 2 Dec 20102012-10-05 19:56:50.611 SSL: Adding recommended CA AAA Certificate Services2012-10-05 19:56:50.611 SSL: Adding recommended CA UTN-USERFirst-Client Authentication and Email2012-10-05 19:56:50.624 ServerDB: Openend SQLite database C:/Program Files (x86)/Mumble/murmur.sqlite2012-10-05 19:56:50.709 MurmurIce: Endpoint "tcp -h 127.0.0.1 -p 6502" running2012-10-05 19:56:50.710 Murmur 1.2.3 (1.2.3) running on Win: 6.1.7601.1: Booting servers2012-10-05 19:56:50.862 1 => Server listening on [::]:647382012-10-05 19:56:50.987 1 => Server listening on 0.0.0.0:647382012-10-05 19:56:51.070 1 => Announcing server via bonjour2012-10-05 19:56:51.132 1 => Not registering server as public2012-10-05 19:57:00.950 1 => <1:(-1)> New connection: [fe80::d5f4:29c9:44a6:6d7b]:530042012-10-05 19:57:00.951 Connection: Failed to add flow to QOS2012-10-05 19:57:01.153 1 => <1:(-1)> Client version 1.2.3 (Win: 1.2.3)2012-10-05 19:57:01.245 1 => Starting voice thread2012-10-05 19:57:01.327 1 => CELT codec switch ffffffff80000010 0 (prefer ffffffff80000010)2012-10-05 19:57:01.412 1 => <1:Eliittihemuli(-1)> Authenticated2012-10-05 19:57:39.653 1 => <1:Eliittihemuli(-1)> Connection closed: The remote host closed the connection [1]2012-10-05 19:57:39.728 1 => Ending voice thread2012-10-05 20:01:56.630 1 => <2:(-1)> New connection: [fe80::d5f4:29c9:44a6:6d7b]:531362012-10-05 20:01:56.631 Connection: Failed to add flow to QOS2012-10-05 20:01:56.781 1 => <2:(-1)> Client version 1.2.3 (Win: 1.2.3)2012-10-05 20:01:56.929 1 => Starting voice thread2012-10-05 20:01:57.014 1 => <2:Eliittihemuli(-1)> Authenticated2012-10-05 20:02:32.421 1 => <2:Eliittihemuli(-1)> Connection closed: The remote host closed the connection [1]2012-10-05 20:02:32.608 1 => Ending voice threadShows two of my crashes, was alone this time though but apparently it doesn't matter. Oh right, by the way, we use Hamachi and LAN settings as we haven't done anykind of port forwarding. This isn't the problem though as it works with my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators kissaki Posted October 6, 2012 Administrators Share Posted October 6, 2012 That only provides the server log. It only shows your client loses the connection.Maybe you could get Debugview http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896647.aspxand see if it provides any useful information!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliittihemuli Posted October 12, 2012 Author Share Posted October 12, 2012 That only provides the server log. It only shows your client loses the connection.Maybe you could get Debugview http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896647.aspxand see if it provides any useful information!? Sorry for my late response. So I tried the Debugview, couldn't understand much of it but it did something when Mumble crashed. Crash occurs in row 39. Here it is:http://imageshack.us/a/img221/8664/nimetnv.pnghttp://imageshack.us/a/img221/8664/nimetnv.pngEDIT: I don't know much about those but does the WASAPI have anything to do with the crash? "Disabled as WASAPI is available" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators kissaki Posted October 13, 2012 Administrators Share Posted October 13, 2012 WASAPI is the Windows (>Vista) sound API. As it is available on your system, the less-feature-richt/older DirectSound is not used, thus disabled. No problem there.The unknown opcodes shouldn’t cause a crash neither - at least they did not for me some time ago.Also, they should not make Mumble crash but the application the Overlay is injected into, if at all (HardHook is the injection mechanism).Furthermore, the debug message “Overlay listening on” follows, further indicating this was not a problem (that crashed).Everything listed on the screenshot seems ok, and still be initialization, thus before the crash.What follows?Also, which OS are you on and which Mumble version are you using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliittihemuli Posted October 13, 2012 Author Share Posted October 13, 2012 WASAPI is the Windows (>Vista) sound API. As it is available on your system, the less-feature-richt/older DirectSound is not used, thus disabled. No problem there.The unknown opcodes shouldn’t cause a crash neither - at least they did not for me some time ago.Also, they should not make Mumble crash but the application the Overlay is injected into, if at all (HardHook is the injection mechanism).Furthermore, the debug message “Overlay listening on” follows, further indicating this was not a problem (that crashed).Everything listed on the screenshot seems ok, and still be initialization, thus before the crash.What follows?Also, which OS are you on and which Mumble version are you using? Mumble version 1.2.3Murmur also 1.2.3Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bitI really have no idea what causes the Mumble to crash, but I know that so far it only crashes when I join my own Murmur server as it doesn't crash when I join my friends Murmur while also having my Murmur on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators kissaki Posted October 14, 2012 Administrators Share Posted October 14, 2012 Everything listed on the screenshot seems ok, and still be initialization, thus before the crash.What follows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliittihemuli Posted October 14, 2012 Author Share Posted October 14, 2012 Everything listed on the screenshot seems ok, and still be initialization, thus before the crash.What follows?What do you mean what follows? Nothing, it just crashes and that's that. Here is another picture showing only me connecting to my Murmur and the Mumble crashing.http://imageshack.us/a/img703/811/nimetnco.pnghttp://imageshack.us/a/img703/811/nimetnco.pngRow 1 connectionRow 9 end of crash and nothing "follows" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators kissaki Posted October 15, 2012 Administrators Share Posted October 15, 2012 Oh, ok.Given your log screenshot above, further log messages followed line 39 not even a second afterwards, indicating that line was not actually the crash/at least things followed.Hm. The overlay really should not be dependant on what server you connect to in any way though.Could you try disabling the overlay in Mumbles settings, and see if that helps?The hard-hook should not be effective then, thus that line never appear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliittihemuli Posted October 16, 2012 Author Share Posted October 16, 2012 Oh, ok.Given your log screenshot above, further log messages followed line 39 not even a second afterwards, indicating that line was not actually the crash/at least things followed.Hm. The overlay really should not be dependant on what server you connect to in any way though.Could you try disabling the overlay in Mumbles settings, and see if that helps?The hard-hook should not be effective then, thus that line never appear. Disabling the overlay was one of the first things I tried to do, unfortunately it doesn't work.I do have another theory why it crashes, opening it with administrator settings doesn't work, disabling and enabling this and that doesn't work, but I noticed that it crashes only the two the first times and then it works, but if I change the settings or disconnect a channel, then it crashes two times again but after that it works, again until I change something.I'm serious, it crashes the first two times and then it works, and if I change something, almost anything, it crashes two times again.And still Mumble crashes when Murmur is on, there is something somewhere, but it's pretty hard to find it as I have no idea where. :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators kissaki Posted October 18, 2012 Administrators Share Posted October 18, 2012 When it crashes with the overlay disabled, what does the debug log say?It certainly should not display the hooking unknown opcodes anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliittihemuli Posted October 20, 2012 Author Share Posted October 20, 2012 Will post the log when I next time use Mumble, might take some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators hacst Posted October 28, 2012 Administrators Share Posted October 28, 2012 This sounds unusual so some into the blue guessing:Are the crashes limited to mumble or do you experience problems with other applications too?Are the drivers on your system up to date (especially network and sound)?Does switching off "Quality Of Service" in Mumble's configuration change anything?The client also writes a log that might contain useful information. You can find it under %APPDATA%\Mumble\ . It's called Console.txt . I would like to take a look at the crash dumps you uploaded. To find it amongst the others I'd need the following information (or at least most of it ;) ): Comment you set, Email you set (make sure to obfuscate it someway or something), Date of upload and your exact mumble version (as displayed in Mumble's about dialog).Hopefully we can get to the bottom of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliittihemuli Posted November 9, 2012 Author Share Posted November 9, 2012 I really apologise for my very late response, I took a little break on gaming.Here is the debug view with overlay disabled.http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/4109/nimetnoa.pnghttp://img560.imageshack.us/img560/4109/nimetnoa.pngAnd according to dd0t, here are the last console.txt rows on appdata. (I wasn't sure should I upload the whole .txt somewhere or just a picture of it, I can upload logs and things for you people if you need to have a look at them.)http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/5364/nimetncc.pnghttp://img28.imageshack.us/img28/5364/nimetncc.pngAre the crashes limited to mumble or do you experience problems with other applications too?Mumble is the only thing that crashes when Murmur is active.Are the drivers on your system up to date (especially network and sound)?Yes, they are, I keep everything on my PC up to date.Does switching off "Quality Of Service" in Mumble's configuration change anything?Mumble didn't crash when I disabled Quality of Service, frankly this could have only been a coincidence as Mumble sometimes doesn't crash at all, rarely though.Mumble version 1.2.3Murmur version 1.2.3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators kissaki Posted November 9, 2012 Administrators Share Posted November 9, 2012 If it does not crash with QoS disabled, your issue is very probably broken network drivers which can not handle QoS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliittihemuli Posted November 16, 2012 Author Share Posted November 16, 2012 So what can I do for it? Do I need to update my network drivers?With all due respect, for myself this issue doesn't matter that much, I can still use Mumble to voice-chat with my friends. And because of that I'd like to just leave this matter here.But for the greater good, I still can continue trying to figure out this problem. Please let me know which one should we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators kissaki Posted November 18, 2012 Administrators Share Posted November 18, 2012 Just leave QoS disabled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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